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ronk wrote:

CathyW wrote:1st swordfish found at this point:
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And after the eliminations from that you get a second swordfish as follows:

I find it amazing that the 2 swordfish exist simultaneously! The first(*) in rows 2, 6, and 9 ... the second(+) in columns 2, 5, and 9.

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 9     +1246   12467  | 1268  +167    2678   | 5      3     +12 
 8      5     *1267   | 4      3      267    |*12     67     9   
 126    3      1267   | 1269   5      2679   | 8      67     4   
----------------------+----------------------+-------------------
 5     +1467   9      | 16     8      3      | 1467   2     +17 
 1246  +12467  3      | 1256  +146    2456   | 9      458   +178
*1246   8     *1246   | 7      9      2456   |*146    45     3   
----------------------+----------------------+-------------------
 7      46     8      | 369    2      469    | 34     1      5   
 3      246    2456   | 568    467    1      | 247    9      278
*124    9     *1245   | 358    47     4578   | 2347   48     6   

This might not be unusual. See here.

tso wrote:

ronk wrote:

CathyW wrote:1st swordfish found at this point:
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And after the eliminations from that you get a second swordfish as follows:

I find it amazing that the 2 swordfish exist simultaneously!

This might not be unusual. Seehere.

Your are correct. On theSwordfish, Slot Machines and Pomeranians thread ...

Myth Jellies wrote:Every NxN swordfish in rows/columns has a mirror MxM swordfish in colums/rows, where M + N = 9 - number of solved cells for the digit in question.

... and I believe anyone that can come up with a formula. BTW that's not an exact quote as I added the " + N".

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  9     +1246   12467  | 1268  +167    2678   |  5      3     +12 
 #8      5    #*1267   |#4      3      267    |#*12     67     9   
 #126    3     #1267   |#1269   5      2679   | #8      67     4   
-----------------------+----------------------+--------------------
  5     +1467   9      | 16     8      3      |  1467   2     +17 
  1246  +12467  3      | 1256  +146    2456   |  9      458   +178
#*1246   8    #*1246   |#7      9      2456   |#*146    45     3   
-----------------------+----------------------+--------------------
  7      46     8      | 369    2      469    |  34     1      5   
  3      246    2456   | 568    467    1      |  247    9      278
#*124    9    #*1245   |#358    47     4578   | #2347   48     6   


I think the aforementioned starred 3x3 swordfish is actually a degenerate piece of the hashed 4x4 jellyfish. The 3x3 swordfish marked with '+'s is the mirror to the hashed jellyfish, and it satisfies the N + M = 9 - number of solved cells rule.