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Stuck on a puzzle

Postby Fortesque92 » Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:45 am

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Re: Stuck on a puzzle

Postby Hajime » Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:27 am

Grouped skyscraper in box89 on digit 7. r8c9<>7. r8c1=7
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Re: Stuck on a puzzle

Postby jco » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:16 am

Givens:
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.5....6..61.....4.2.75.4......9.6.....8..5.....2...1.998......1.....1.5....82....

After basics
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.-----------------------------------------------------------.
| 8     5     4     | 1     37    9     | 6     237   237   |
| 6     1     9     | 37    8     2     | 357   4     357   |
| 2     3     7     | 5     6     4     | 9     1     8     |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 347   47    1     | 9     37    6     | 25    8     25    |
| 37    9     8     | 2     1     5     | 347   6     347   |
| 5     6     2     | 37    4     8     | 1     37    9     |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 9     8     36    | 46    5     37    | 2347  237   1     |
| 47    2     36    | 46    9     1     | 8     5     347   |
| 1     47    5     | 8     2     37    | 347   9     6     |
'-----------------------------------------------------------'

This puzzle could be called "Remote Pair"
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Re: Stuck on a puzzle

Postby Fortesque92 » Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:12 am

Cool, I haven't heard of Grouped Skyscrapers. Is there a tutorial for them online?
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Re: Stuck on a puzzle

Postby Leren » Wed Sep 27, 2023 3:51 am

Removed.
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Re: Stuck on a puzzle

Postby jco » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:13 pm

Hajime wrote:Grouped skyscraper in box89 on digit 7. r8c9<>7. r8c1=7

I do not see a Grouped skyscraper for this puzzle.
(I see two remote pairs in sequence solving the puzzle)
Notice (7)r9c2. It spoils the Grouped skyscraper.
If (7)r9c7 is false, then we can have (7)r9c6 or (7)r9c2.
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Re: Stuck on a puzzle

Postby Leren » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:37 pm

My solver's solution using the easiest moves available was :

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*----------------------------------------*
| 8   5  4  | 1  37 9  | 6     2-37  237 |
| 6   1  9  |c37 8  2  |d357   4    d357 |
| 2   3  7  | 5  6  4  | 9     1     8   |
|-----------+----------+-----------------|
| 347 47 1  | 9  37 6  | 25    8     25  |
| 37  9  8  | 2  1  5  | 347   6     347 |
| 5   6  2  |b37 4  8  | 1    a37    9   |
|-----------+----------+-----------------|
| 9   8  36 | 46 5  37 | 2347  237   1   |
| 47  2  36 | 46 9  1  | 8     5     347 |
| 1   47 5  | 8  2  37 | 347   9     6   |
*----------------------------------------*

Two Grouped Skyscrapers on 3 & 7 in cells a-b-c-dd => - 37 r1c8

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| 8   5  4 | 1  37 9  | 6     2  37  |
| 6   1  9 |c37 8  2  |d37    4  5   |
| 2   3  7 | 5  6  4  | 9     1  8   |
|----------+----------+--------------|
| 347 47 1 | 9  37 6  | 5     8  2   |
| 37  9  8 | 2  1  5  | 4-37  6  347 |
| 5   6  2 |b37 4  8  | 1    a37 9   |
|----------+----------+--------------|
| 9   8  6 | 4  5  37 | 2     37 1   |
| 47  2  3 | 6  9  1  | 8     5  47  |
| 1   47 5 | 8  2  37 | 347   9  6   |
*------------------------------------*

Two Skyscrapers on 3 & 7 in cells a-b-c-d => - 37 r5c7

You can find out about Grouped links on Andrew Stuart's site here.
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Re: Stuck on a puzzle

Postby Hajime » Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:43 am

jco wrote:
Hajime wrote:Grouped skyscraper in box89 on digit 7. r8c9<>7. r8c1=7

I do not see a Grouped skyscraper for this puzzle.
(I see two remote pairs in sequence solving the puzzle)
Notice (7)r9c2. It spoils the Grouped skyscraper.
If (7)r9c7 is false, then we can have (7)r9c6 or (7)r9c2.

You are quite right. Wrong method. Tried solving the puzzle by hand.
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